RIMOFTHEWORLD.net
part of Vicinitas.com

Place your classified ad for less than you think. Click Here for complete details.

-JOHNNYBHANDYMAN-CARPENTRY,DECKS,ROOFING- PLUMBING,ELECTRICAL, WEED ABATEMENT,FENCING, SNOW REMOVAL,CLEANING SERVICE,RETAINING WALLS, GIVE US A CALL , WE DO IT ALL. 909-338-3725,909-744-8246 THANK YOU. JB.
EXPERIENCED CAREGIVER - CPR & First Aid Certified Bonded,Fingerprinted,Refs Private / Dept of Aging, Full / Part Time, Days Dependable, Reliable, Cleaning, Cooking, TLC, Errands, Personal Care Running Springs Area Plus 909-214-1167 or 867-2913
Recent Discussions

Arts
Musicians (01:51 am)
Chat Rooms
Mountain Christians Group (02:55 am)
Lake Arrowhead & Crestline Communities (06:21 am)
Mountain Multi-Cultural Multi-Faith Group (04:53 am)
Big Bear & San Gorgonio Communities (04:31 am)
Running Springs Communities (05:00 am)
Classifieds
Employment Sought (09:20 pm)
Wanted (09:42 pm)
Free (12:07 am)
Communities
Twin Peaks (11:32 pm)
Arrowbear (11:11 pm)
Cedarpines Park (05:54 am)
Lake Arrowhead (01:23 am)
Green Valley Lake (11:48 pm)
Deerlick (10:18 pm)
Valley of Enchantment (07:34 pm)
Forest Falls (07:25 am)
Crestline (06:10 am)
All Communities (06:22 am)
Community
Supervisor Derry (12:36 am)
Emergency Services
CHP Q&A (05:52 pm)
Twin Peaks Sheriff's Station (04:15 pm)
General
Mountain Recipes (03:36 pm)
Anything (05:30 pm)
News
Weather (03:50 am)
Articles (06:05 am)
Pets
Emergencies (07:39 pm)
Cats Needing Homes (05:40 pm)
Lost Pets (05:49 am)
Dogs Needing Homes (12:57 pm)
Politics
Local Issues (05:55 am)
National (05:46 am)
Recreation
Mountain Gardening (11:08 pm)
more discussions...

San Jacinto Mountain Communities

Idyllwild vs The Esperanza Fire

Can't find the messages you're looking for? Need help? Click Here for help and tips.

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 08:17 AM
SUBJECT: Idyllwild & The Esperanza Fire
DATE: 23 November 2006
FROM: David R.W. Wadsworth <DRWWadsworth@gmail.com>

Thursday night, October 26th was a moderately stressful night. I was packed and ready to evacuate but WNKI, the local emergency radio station went off the air at 4:30 p.m. stating “the fire is 5.5 miles away and going west. Idyllwild/Pine Cove is not endangered."

I'm new to the mountains and my sense of direction at any given time is seriously messed up. I see San Jacinto Mountain out of my computer room window, which is almost due east. But 243 going to Pine Cove seems like it also run east an west and Pine Cove seems east of me. 243 doesn't and Pine Cove isn’t. 243 runs virtually north and south so my family and I were never in any danger.

It was disheartening to intellectually know that we weren't in any danger -- WNKI and the police would tell us if we were -- but being so disoriented I felt the fire was only 5.5 miles away. I spent the night looking for a Web Site that would show at least a graph of the fire in relation to various communities. I could find nothing.

The Esperanza Fire was a good dry run for Idyllwild area in that it pin pointed my deficiencies. 1) WNKI would broadcast round the clock or until they had to evacuate if there were in any danger -- intellectually I knew that but it was still disheartening when it went off the air, 2) Pine Cove is not east but north of northeast of Idyllwild, and 3) I need multiple sources of information. I'm a volunteer several disaster organizations on the hill but the first rule in any disaster preparedness is take care of yourself and your family first.

Maybe I'm asking for too much but does anyone know of a web site that will show a graph of a fire in relation to various communities and keep it updated?

David R.W. Wadsworth

DAS IDYLLWILD SCHONGEBIET
MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 617
SHIPPING ADDRESS: 25685 Big Pine
Idyllwild, CA 92549

(951) 659-0130

DRWWadsworth@gmail.com
From: Cedar
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 09:58 AM
I understand what you mean. When I frist moved to Big Bear I had no idea where anything was in relation to where I lived, and I didn't yet have a sense of how far away anything was, or what exactly it means to hear that a fire is five miles away. I now realize that five miles as the crow flies can also mean a couple ridges or a mountain or two between me and a fire.

Have you looked at the map on this site: http://www.rimoftheworld.net/gallery/image/6014
There may also be links to other maps in the threads about the Esperanza Fire. Those would be mostly in the "Fire" threads under the "News" or "Incidents" heading. I bumped up the Esperanza thread under incident for you.

This is about the best place I have found for gathering information on fires in the area. While I find bits and pieces on other websites, it seems that sooner or later all of those bits and pieces show up here in the threads on a particular fire or on the Alerts page. We have some awsome volunteers who ferret this info out and post here for us.
Want to be part of the discussion? Sign In with your RIMOFTHEWORLD.net account. If you don't have an account, sign up as a New User now!
Welcome to the discussion boards.

In order to prevent abuse of the discussions, you now need an account in order to post messages. It'S easy to get one, just click on the New User link and you can start posting messages now!

If you already have an account, just Sign In and get started.
Can't find the group you're looking for?

Groups are now in categories to help keep track of the over 150 groups. Click on the topic titles or the Top button at the top to browse the groups and subtopics.
Who Writes These?

These messages are posted by RIMOFTHEWORLD.net users. RIMOFTHEWORLD.net does not screen the content of these messages, and only removes messages that we receive complaints about, and clearly violate our Terms of Service. Some of these messages may contain political views, religious content, criticisms, or other content that some users may find offensive or disagree with. We encourage the free exchange of ideas and try to foster an environment where everyone can be heard. RIMOFTHEWORLD.net, its advertisers, affiliates, columnists, volunteers, and stakeholders do not necessarily endorse any specific statement contained in these messages.

Directory Spotlight
DON'S GARAGE - RUNNING SPRINGS, CA - (909) 867-2501
Listed in Services > Automotive
Click Here to edit your free basic listing in the Community Directory
 
News & Information
There are 33 signed in members out of 323 total visitors online right now.

Email And Mobile Alerts - 6 Email And Mobile Alerts have been sent out over the past four hours. Did you get one? Check out our Club Alerts Page for more details.

Site Meter