05:34 AM
Tue 5/13
Fire - Out Of Area - Vegetation
BEAR CANYON
01:26 PM
Sun 5/18
From: InciWeb - 9:15 a.m.
Summary
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately
4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As
of Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 6:00 a.m.
PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned
approximately 490 acres north of the Mt.
Baldy Village area within the Angeles
National Forest. The fire is 86%
contained.
So.Cal Incident Management Team 1
continues to manage the fire. There are
289 multi-agency personnel currently
assigned to the fire, with additional
personnel and equipment being released
tomorrow.
For Bighorn Fire Information over the
weekend please call the Incident
information office directly at 6:30 a.m.
until 8:p.m. Phone: (909) 394-7903
Terrain - Steep Fuel Type: Medium brush
with grass understory, scattered sparse
fuels on slopes, with heavier fuels in
drainages
Fire Behavior: Fire activity is expected
to be minimal and limited to pockets of
heavy dead fuels and small stands of
snags.
Evacuations: Approximately 6 recreation
residences in the vicinity of Bear
Canyon have been voluntarily evacuated
which is up from the mandatory
evacuation earlier issued.
Closure Update: All existing road
closures will be lifted as of 6:00a.m.
Monday, May 19th. The Bear Canyon Trail
will remain closed from the trailhead in
Mt. Baldy Village north to Mount San
Antonio until further notice.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 05/13/2008 at 0430 hrs.
Location Claremont
Incident Commander Carlton Joseph
Current Situation
Total Personnel 289
Size 490 acres
Percent Contained 86%
Estimated Containment Date 05/18/2008 at 1800 hrs.
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush with dry grass understory
Fire Behavior
Minimal fire activity with a few
smoldering hot spots within the fire
perimeter
Significant Events
Demobilization of fire crews is ongoing
and will be reduced significantly by
Monday, May 19, 2008.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to contruct line
wherever possible and anticipate
completion tonight.
Projected Movement
Crews are successfully working in
difficult conditions to meet the
incident objectives. With the moderating
weather, continued air support and high
crews production rates the fire is
still expected to be contained Sunday at
1800 hrs.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
Containment Target
There is a high likelihood that the fire
will be contained on Sunday, May 18, by
6:00 p.m.
Remarks
The demobilization of handcrews will
continue.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 2 - 4 mph SW
Current Temperature 84 degrees
Current Humidity 18 %
Contact Information
Fire Information Center
(626) 574-5208
M - F 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.
Unit Information
USFS ShieldAngeles National Forest
701 N. Santa Anita Avenue
Arcadia, California 91006
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Sun 5/18
From: InciWeb - 9:15 a.m.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 05/13/2008 at 0430 hrs.
Location Claremont
Incident Commander Carlton Joseph
01:22 PM
Sun 5/18
From: InciWeb - 9:15 a.m.
Current Situation
Total Personnel 289
Size 490 acres
Percent Contained 86%
Estimated Containment Date 05/18/2008 at 1800 hrs.
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush with dry grass understory
Fire Behavior
Minimal fire activity with a few
smoldering hot spots within the fire
perimeter
Significant Events
Demobilization of fire crews is ongoing
and will be reduced significantly by
Monday, May 19, 2008.
01:19 PM
Sun 5/18
From: InciWeb - 9:15 a.m.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to contruct line
wherever possible and anticipate
completion tonight.
Projected Movement
Crews are successfully working in
difficult conditions to meet the
incident objectives. With the moderating
weather, continued air support and high
crews production rates the fire is
still expected to be contained Sunday at
1800 hrs.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
Containment Target
There is a high likelihood that the fire
will be contained on Sunday, May 18, by
6:00 p.m.
Remarks
The demobilization of handcrews will
continue.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 2 - 4 mph SW
Current Temperature 84 degrees
Current Humidity 18 %
08:55 AM
Sat 5/17
From: InciWeb 8:45 a.m.
Summary
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately
4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As
of Saturday, May 16, 2008 at 8:30 a.m.
PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned
approximately 461 acres north of the Mt.
Baldy Village area within the Angeles
National Forest. The fire is 72%
contained.
So.Cal Incident Management Team 1
continues to manage the fire. There are
308 multi-agency personnel currently
assigned to the fire, with additional
personnel and equipment being released
tomorrow. Fire spread continues to be
limited to rolling debris and short
runs. Fire fighters will remain
strategically placed throughout the Mt.
Baldy Community and are making excellent
progress constructing line around the
fire.
For Bighorn Fire Information over the
weekend please call the Incident
information office directly at 6:30 a.m.
until 8:p.m. Phone: (909) 394-7903
Terrain - Steep Fuel Type: Medium brush
with grass understory, scattered sparse
fuels on slopes, with heavier fuels in
drainages
Fire Behavior: Fire activity is expected
to be minimal and limited to pockets of
heavy dead fuels and small stands of
snags.
Evacuations: Approximately 6 recreation
residences in the vicinity of Bear
Canyon have been evacuated.
Closure Update: Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn
remains closed to the public and open to
residents only throughout the weekend.
Glendora ridge road is closed at Mt.
Baldy Road, and closed at the junction
with the Glendora Mountain road 3.5
miles north of the city of Glendora.
08:53 AM
Sat 5/17
From: InciWeb 8:45 a.m.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 05/13/2008 at 0430 hrs.
Location Claremont
Incident Commander Carlton Joseph
08:52 AM
Sat 5/17
From: InciWeb 8:45 a.m.
Current Situation
Total Personnel 308
Size 461 acres
Percent Contained 72%
Estimated Containment Date
05/18/2008 at 1800 hrs.
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush with dry grass understory
Fire Behavior
Minimal fire activity with the exception
of the West fork of Bear Canyon where
the fire continues to roll out and make
short uphill runs on the SW facing
slopes.
Significant Events
School was reopened to local students,
with no significant impact on fire
operations. Air operations is working
closely with South Ops to make a type 2
helicopter available.
08:50 AM
Sat 5/17
From: InciWeb 8:45 a.m.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to build direct line
wherever possible. Crews are
constructing a secondary / contingency
line on the south portion of the fire
down Mt. Baldy Road.
Projected Movement
Crews are successfully working in
difficult conditions to meet the
incident objectives. With the moderating
weather, continued air support and high
crews production rates the fire is
still expected to be contained Sunday at
1800 hrs.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
Containment Target
There is a high likelihood that the fire
will be contained on Sunday, May 18, by
6:00 p.m.
Remarks
The demobilization of handcrews has
begun.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 3 - 7
mph NE
Current Temperature 83 degrees
Current Humidity 13 %
01:12 PM
Fri 5/16
From: CHP CAD
Incident: 0944
Type: Report of Fire
Location: BASE LINE AT EB SR210
Zoom Map: 577 5J
1:06PM PER FIRE MT BALDY FIRE
FLARING UP AGAIN
08:41 AM
Fri 5/16
From: InciWeb 8:30 a.m.
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildland Fire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin 05/13/2008 at 0430 hrs.
Location Claremont
Incident Commander Carlton Joseph
Current Situation
Total Personnel 609
Size 420 acres
Percent Contained 60%
Estimated Containment Date 05/18/2008 at 1800 hrs.
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush with dry grass understory
Fire Behavior
Nighttime fire behavior was minimal, and
limited to pockets of heavy dead fuels
and small stands of snags
Significant Events
Crews made good progress building direct
fire line and cold trailing in steep
rugged terrain.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to build direct line
where possible, and develop and
implement strategies to stop the spread
of the fire down the steep drainages.
Projected Movement
The fire will continue to back its way
down the slope of the West Fork Bear
Canyon. This spread is moderate
intensity driven by heavy dead and down
fuels. Fire will roll out and make short
runs back into the black (burned area).
The southern portion of the fire near
Bear Flat will continue to move down the
steep drainages toward Mt. Baldy
Village.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
Containment Target
There is a high likelihood that the fire
will be contained on Sunday, May 18, by
6:00 p.m.
Remarks
The weather will be moderating, with a
return of a more typical weather
pattern.
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 15 mph NE
Current Temperature 60 degrees
Current Humidity 35 %
08:37 AM
Fri 5/16
From: InciWeb 8:30 a.m.
Summary
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately
4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As
of Friday, May 16, 2008 at 6:00 a.m.
PST, the fire has burned approximately
420 acres north of the Mt. Baldy Village
area within the Angeles National
Forest.
So. Cal Incident Management Team 1
continues to manage the fire. There are
609 multi-agency personnel currently
assigned to the fire.
Today (Friday) crews will continue to
build direct line where possible, and
develop and implement strategies to stop
the spread of the fire down the steep
drainages.
Terrain - Steep Fuel Type: medium brush
with grass understory, scattered sparse
fuels on slopes, with heavier fuels in
drainages
Fire Behavior: Nighttime fire behavior
was minimal, and limited to pockets of
heavy dead fuels and small stands of
snags
Evacuations: Approximately 6 recreation
residences in the vicinity of Bear
Canyon have been evacuated.
Closure Update: Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn
is closed to the public and open to
residents only. Glendora Ridge Road is
closed at Mt. Baldy Road and is closed
at the East Fork. Mt. Baldy School will
re-open today, Friday May 16, 2008.
Weather: Hot temperatures near 100
degrees are expected in the valleys
today (Friday), with single digit
relative humidity.
The Angeles National Forest Fire
Information Center has been deactivated.
Information is available during normal
business hours Monday - Friday from 8:00
a.m. until 4:30 p.m. Phone:
626-574-5208.
07:26 AM
Thu 5/15
From: Inciweb 7:25 a.m.
Total Personnel 668
Size 340 acres
Percent Contained 25%
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush with dry grass understory
Fire Behavior
Minimal fire behavior was observed
through the night.
Significant Events
Mt. Baldy School remains closed. See
summary above for evacuation
information.
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to construct direct
handline, supported with air resources.
Projected Movement
The fire area is feeling the influence of a
strong high pressure system, which will
bring much warmer temperatures (near
100 degrees in the valley), very low RH,
and strong N-NE winds gusting to 30.
This weather pattern could effect the
fire's spread and push it to the southwest.
This spread would threaten more homes
and establish the fire in more continuous
fuels.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
07:25 AM
Thu 5/15
From: Inciweb 7:25 a.m.
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately 4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As of Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 6:00 a.m. PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned approximately 340 acres north of the Mt. Baldy Village area within the Angeles National Forest. (See attached map.)
The fire is currently 25% contained. The cause remains under investigation. The fire is under Forest Service management. There are 668 multi-agency personnel currently assigned to the fire. Fire engines will be strategically placed throughout the Mt. Baldy Community and maintain patrols throughout the canyon.
The Angeles National Forest Fire Information Center will be open from 8:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Phone: 626-821-6700.
Terrain - Steep and rugged Fuel Type: medium brush with grass understory, scattered sparse fuels on slopes, with heavier fuels in drainages
Fire Behavior: Minimal fire behavior was observed through the night. The fire continues to move through dry, dead fuels and make short, moderate-intensity runs back up the steep slopes.
Evacuations (6:00 a.m. May 15, 2008): Approximately 6 recreation residences in the vicinity of Bear Canyon continue to be evacuated. The village of Mt. Baldy remains under a voluntary evacuation.
Closure Update (06:00 a.m. May 15, 2008): Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn is closed to the public and open to residents only. Glendora Ridge Road is closed at Mt. Baldy Road and is closed at the East Fork. Mt. Baldy School will remain closed for Thursday, May 15.
Weather: A strong high pressure system will bring much warmer temperatures today (May 15), with very low relative humidity, and strong N-NE winds gusting to 30 mph.
09:00 PM
Wed 5/14
From: Inciweb 8:15 p.m.
Planned Actions
Crews will continue to construct direct
handline where possible.
Projected Movement
The fire area is starting to feel the
influence of a strong high pressure
system. North northwest wind 7 to 10
mph increasing to between 17 and 20
mph could cause the fire to spread
during the night. This system will bring
much warmer temperatures, very low
humidity and strong N-NE winds gusting
to 30 mph for the next three days.
Growth Potential Medium
Terrain Difficulty Extreme
Remarks
Gusty northeast winds will be returning to
the area later tonight through early
afternoon Thursday along with the
humidity dropping into the teens. Poor
overnight recovery is expected and will
not exceed 25%. Winds will begin to
increase after midnight and are
expected to reach 40 mph.
08:58 PM
Wed 5/14
From: Inciweb 8:15 p.m.
Total Personnel 623
Size 320 acres
Percent Contained 25%
Fuels Involved Medium Brush
Fire Behavior Fire behavior was moderate
Significant Events
Unified command terminated at
1800 hrs. The fire will be under Forest
Service jurisdiction and managed by SCIIMT1.
08:57 PM
Wed 5/14
From: Inciweb 8:15 p.m.
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately 4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As of Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 5:00 a.m. PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned approximately 320 acres north of the Mt. Baldy Village area within the Angeles National Forest. (See attached map.)
The fire is currently 25% contained. The cause remains under investigation. SoCal Team 1 is managing the fire. As of 6 p.m., the fire is under Forest Service management. There are 623 multi-agency personnel currently assigned to the fire. Fire engines will be strategically places throughout the Mt. Baldy Community and maintain patrols throughout the canyon.
The Angeles National Forest Fire Information Center will be open from 8:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Phone: 626-821-6700.
Terrain - Steep Fuel Type: medium brush with grass understory, scattered sparse fuels on slopes, with heavier fuels in drainages
Fire Behavior: The fire's spread was marked by isolated torching and head fire runs. Rates of spread were about 200 ft per hour and moving down slope against the wind (backing) with rolling debris contributing to the fires spread.
Evacuations (5:00 a.m. May 14, 2008): Approximately 6 recreation residences in the vicinity of Bear Canyon have been evacuated.
Closure Update (05:00 a.m. May 14, 2008): Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn is closed to the public and open to residents only. Glendora Ridge Road is closed at Mt. Baldy Road and is closed at the East Fork. Mt. Baldy School will remain closed for Thursday, May 15.
Weather: Winds from the north/northwest at 7-10 mph, with gusts up to 20 mph, were observed on the fire today. Stronger north/northeast winds are expected to return late tonight through Thursday afternoon with low daytime humidity.
04:31 PM
Wed 5/14
{Transcriber note: last post was in reference to dropping off supplies at a drop area.}
03:41 PM
Wed 5/14
[scratchy xmit] Going to do one more drop then we will lift you out.
02:59 PM
Wed 5/14
seems to be a problem with air support; we'll get a drop or two then nothing for an hour or so; we're just not getting the punch we need; maybe we're not the priority, but there seems to be a problem; {reply} we just got two more ships in at the helipad, we'll see if they can come up; work with air support and see what you can do
02:57 PM
Wed 5/14
{Slop over is in Z's area} The slop over will not be very workable at night
02:55 PM
Wed 5/14
problem area is still H1 and the knob northeast of H1, it's trying to wrap itself around that knob there
02:52 PM
Wed 5/14
started receiving people and will start working down form the top {unknown location}
02:51 PM
Wed 5/14
{discussion of a slop over - no details; weak, scratchy transmission}
02:47 PM
Wed 5/14
From: SocalFires yahoo group post
SPOT FORECAST FOR BIG HORN...USFS ANF
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
149 PM PDT WED MAY 14 2008
FORECAST IS BASED ON REQUEST TIME OF 1331 PDT ON MAY 14.
IF CONDITIONS BECOME UNREPRESENTATIVE. ..CONTACT THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE.
.DISCUSSION. ..GUSTY NORTHEAST WINDS WILL BE RETURNING TO THE AREA
LATER TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON THURSDAY ALONG WITH
HUMIDITIES DROPPING INTO THE TEENS. OVERNIGHT RECOVERIES WILL BE
MINIMAL WITH HUMIDITIES NOT EXCEEDING 25 PERCENT. UPSLOPE/UPVALLEY
WINDS ARE EXPECTED THIS EVENING...MOSTLY LESS THAN 15 MPH...WITH
LIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS OVER THE HIGHER RIDGES. AFTER MIDNIGHT
NORTHEAST WINDS WILL BE INCREASING TO 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS AS
HIGH AS 40 MPH. WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS THEN
DECREASE IN THE AFTERNOON... EVENTUALLY TURNING UPSLOPE/UPVALLEY
LATE IN THE DAY.
.TONIGHT...
SKY/WEATHER. ........CLEAR.
MIN TEMPERATURE. ....48-53.
MAX HUMIDITY.... ....25 PERCENT.
EYE LEVEL WINDS.....UPSLOPE/ UPVALLEY 5-10 MPH BECOMING NORTHEAST
10-20 MPH
WITH GUSTS TO 30 MPH AFTER MIDNIGHT.
RIDGETOP.... .......NORTHEAST 5-10 MPH INCREASING TO 15-25 MPH WITH
GUSTS
TO 35 MPH AFTER MIDNIGHT.
.THURSDAY...
SKY/WEATHER. ........SUNNY.
MAX TEMPERATURE. ....72-76.
MIN HUMIDITY.... ....15 PERCENT.
EYE LEVEL WINDS.....NORTHEAST 10-20 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 30
MPH...BECOMING
UPSLOPE/UPVALLEY 5-10 MPH AFTER 3 PM.
RIDGETOP.... .......NORTHEAST 15-25 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 35
MPH...BECOMING
NORTHEAST 10-20 MPH AFTER 3 PM.
01:03 PM
Wed 5/14
Div Y/C break coordinates - N 34 15.689 by W 117 39.343; Kern Valley and Black Mountain; this is also the proposed H3 location
12:56 PM
Wed 5/14
duplicate this order for a Y/C break - for Black Mountain and Kern Valley hot shots, do not have coordinates as yet
12:55 PM
Wed 5/14
Div Y lower sling site - N 34 14.891 W 117 39.210 - Sierra and Kings River hot shots gear; and additional supplies
11:26 AM
Wed 5/14
Victor 135.975
Air Attack 169.200
Forest Net 172.375
Tacs 168.200
11:17 AM
Wed 5/14
From: South Ops notes
05/14 0800 Bighorn Fire (ANF-1444)has burned 310 acres of brush with 10 % percent containment . Transfer of command from the initial attack IC Eric McCormick to Southern California Team 1 (Joseph, Type 2 IMT) occurred at 0600hrs. With the predicted weather pattern the fire could spread down canyon in a Southwesterly direction. Fire is burning in Steep rugged terrain, temperatures in the valley near 100 degrees and single digit RH's. Approximately 100 residence remain threatened. The continued evacutions of cabins near the fire area and the notifications to the town of Mt. Baldy for a recomended evacuation. Fire made short low to moderate runs up the steep canyons. Most fire activity had moderated by 2300hrs. Crews will work to construct direct hand line in the steep terrain, supported with both rotor and fixed wing assets.
10:48 AM
Wed 5/14
From: ANF-1
Just to confirm, is our relieve coming at 11:00 hours?
08:39 AM
Wed 5/14
From: Inciweb 7:30 a.m.
Total Personnel 396
Size 310 acres
Percent Contained 10%
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush
Fire Behavior
Fire made short, low to moderate runs
up the steep canyons. Most fire activity
had moderated by 11:00 p.m., Tues. May 13.
Significant Events
Cabins near the fire area continue to be
evacuated. Continued notifications to the
town of Mt. Baldy for a recommended
evacuation.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Crew will work to construct direct hand
line in the steep terrain, supported with
both helicopter and fixed wing aircraft.
Projected Movement
With the predicted weather pattern, the
fire could spread down canyon in a
southwesterly direction.
Growth Potential
Medium
Terrain Difficulty
Extreme
Remarks
At 6:00 a.m. today (Weds., May 14),
command of the fire was transferred to
Southern California Team 1 (Joseph,
Type 2 IMT).
Weather
Current Wind Conditions 7 mph S
Current Temperature 53 degrees
Current Humidity 33 %
08:37 AM
Wed 5/14
From: Inciweb 7:30 a.m.
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately 4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As of Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 5:00 a.m. PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned approximately 310 acres north of the Mt. Baldy Village area within the Angeles National Forest. (See attached map.)
The fire is currently 10% contained. 396 multi-agency personnel are currently assigned to the fire. The cause is under investigation. The Angeles National Forest Fire Information Center will be open from 8:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Phone: 626-821-6700.
Terrain - Steep - Medium Brush
Evacuations (5:00 a.m. May 14, 2008): Approximately 6 recreation residences in the vicinity of Bear Canyon continue to be evacuated.
Closure Update (5:00 a.m. May 14, 2008):Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn is closed to the public and open to residents only. Glendora Ridge Road is closed at Mt. Baldy Road and is closed at the East Fork.
07:57 AM
Wed 5/14
From: RST
[Transcriber Note] Scanner traffic indicating various crews going to their assigned area this morning.
07:03 AM
Wed 5/14
From: 305
To :To Dispatch
I have made contact with Big Horn Base.
06:58 AM
Wed 5/14
305x (missed the call sign) lifting off from base and heading to the Big Horn incident with 9 onboard. ETA 7 mins.
05:50 PM
Tue 5/13
RS transcriber off line.
05:16 PM
Tue 5/13
From: IC
To :ANF
is the TFR in place now?
04:53 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Inciweb as of 4:50 pm
Size 300 acres
04:48 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Inciweb as of 4 p.m.
Cause Under Investigation
Total Personnel 250
Size 200 acres
Fuels Involved
Medium Brush
04:48 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Inciweb
The Bighorn Fire began at approximately 4:30 a.m. on Tuesday, May 13, 2008. As of 2:00 p.m. PST, the Bighorn Fire has burned approximately 200 acres north of the Mt. Baldy Village area within the Angeles National Forest. (See attached map.)The fire is currently 0% contained. 240 multi-agency personnel are currently assigned to the fire. The cause is under investigation. The Angeles National Forest Fire Information Center will be open from 8:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Terrain - Steep - Medium BrushEvacuations (12:00 p.m. May 13, 2008): Approximately 6 recreation residences in the vicinity of Bear Canyon have been evacuated. Closure Update (12:00 p.m. May 13, 2008):Mt. Baldy Road at Shinn is closed to the public and open to residents only. Glendora Ridge Road is closed at Mt. Baldy Road and is closed at the east fork.
04:47 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Inciweb
04:42 PM
Tue 5/13
From: IC
To :ANF
request second spot weather forecast for tonight, night operations; same parameters, any time after 18:00
03:59 PM
Tue 5/13
San Gabriel Ranger District extend your staffing to 20:00 hours
03:56 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Ops
To :ANF
WT 22 and WT 25 have been released back to quarters
03:35 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Lead Bravo 5
To :Big Horn Ops
We can try again tomorrow morning (to get tankers up), if no winds we can get something in there; we poked our nose in at about 11000 we got in to some problems; the top of the left flank is getting into a rocky cliff, in a dry wash off Baldy there; the right flank can continue to move up that drainage, but getting into sparse fuels there; if we can get some retardant in there it will really help you out tomorrow; there is a big pocket in there we can't see due to the smoke; if we tied both shoulders in it may be 200 acres or more; but there's a big pocket there that we can't see due to the smoke, so it may be less; we're heading back to Victorville but can take another look on our pass back to base later this evening.
03:31 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Lead Bravo 5
To :ANF Dispatch
fire looks to be about 200 acres or less; hard to see through the smoke; fairly active on upper edges on both flanks; going to be running into rocky country on the left flank fairly soon; right flank go into some fairly sparse fuels; it can still move laterally either direction mid-flank; if it runs uphill on the left flank it will hit some sparse fuels; still no way to get air tankers in here; anything below 11000' we get bumped around pretty much in there; helicopters are ok down lower
03:23 PM
Tue 5/13
Lead Bravo 5 on scene; going to switch to Simplex to talk to IC
03:04 PM
Tue 5/13
San Francisco Examiner at 2:55 p.m. reports fire is 300 acres
03:01 PM
Tue 5/13
From: IC
To :Angeles (ANF) Dispatch
launch air attack or the lead to reassess the weather restrictions on the fire; I believe they have calmed down enough that we can use fixed wing now
02:57 PM
Tue 5/13
From: CHP CAD
2:46PM SAN BERNARDINO SO REQ ADDL UNIT = GLENDORA MOUNTAIN RIDGE ROUTE AT GLENDORA CANYON - 1039 S4
02:14 PM
Tue 5/13
From: WCFICC
05/13/2008 13:08 CDD-5483 RO/TK/BIGHORN Resource Order MT BALDY VILLAGE- BEAR CREEK DRANIAGE P5D6S6
02:06 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Webcam
01:59 PM
Tue 5/13
{air unit} We are en route to the Big Horn Fire; we see a smoke in the Pacoima Canyon area; not quite on forest boundary; just wanted to know if you were aware of that; about 1/2 mile out of the boundary, in the brush, definitely threatening structures; just wanted to confirm that you had heard about that
01:48 PM
Tue 5/13
{sounded like air attack changing from one to another} City Fire 1 is heading back for a crew change; {broke} and you have helicopter 301 and 305 and {missed designator}
01:37 PM
Tue 5/13
needs one of your helicopters for a tactical drop in Div Z, Supervisor 19
01:36 PM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF F-1
We want to make a drop, having problems with communications, can you contact tanker x(scratchy) pls?
01:29 PM
Tue 5/13
From: NWS
SAN BERNARDINO & RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE- SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS- 122 PM PDT TUE MAY 13 2008
.WIND ADVISORY IS CANCELLED.
THE NATL WEATHER SVC IN SAN DIEGO HAS CANCELLED THE WIND ADVISORY. THE OFFSHORE FLOW AT THE SURFACE HAS WEAKENED SOMEWHAT OVER THE AREA.& WIND GUSTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE BELOW CRITERIA
01:29 PM
Tue 5/13
there are 250 meals {broke}
01:21 PM
Tue 5/13
From: Weather
05/13 13:20:00
at 7800'
Temperature: 43 F
Wet Bulb: 30 F
Humidity: 19%
Wind: 31 from the East
Barometer: 30.07
01:18 PM
Tue 5/13
tankers are on hold due to wind; however, {low volume} would like to have two on hold for tomorrow
01:12 PM
Tue 5/13
{air to air} working ridge all the way from the north to south to keep it from slopping over; crews are working it, looking to improve
01:09 PM
Tue 5/13
{air to air} they want us to keep wetting down this ridge; bumping up right against this point and we want it to keep from slopping over on the southeast or the northeast area
12:19 PM
Tue 5/13
From: WrightwoodCalif.com
From Wrightwood Administrator: Re: Big Horn Fire - Mt Bady 5-13-08
« Reply #14 on: Today at 12:06:01 PM »
Lead Bravo 5 unable to fly over the fire due to winds. Headed to Victorville.
12:17 PM
Tue 5/13
From: wrightwoodcalif.com
Posted by Wrightwood Administrator on wrightwoodcalif.com forum: Re: Big Horn Fire - Mt Bady 5-13-08
« Reply #15 on: Today at 12:12:02 PM »
Fire started at 0430 hours this morning, north of Mt. Baldy in Bear Canyon/Bear Flats area. Fire is currently burning in the Bear Creek
drainage. Now at 100 acres with no containment. 240 personnel on scene, 5 helicopters. Structure protection in place. Mandatory evac. for Bear Canyon community, mainly recreation cabins. Heavy fuels, high winds. Winds now at 15-20 MPH, with gusts to 50 MPH.
FS Type II Incident Management Team to take over incident at 1800 hours. ICP to be located at Bonelli Regional Park in San Dimas.
11:31 AM
Tue 5/13
Lead Bravo 5 should be over the fire now (Air Attack)
11:23 AM
Tue 5/13
Air to ground - The western flank of your fire will eat its way into some rock fall and timberline up here, the fire is wind and slope pushed; the northern part of the fire is going into the rocks, still skunking around in some drainages; some isolated fire has jumped the canyon on the west side of the fire; on the north side, we can't get up there to do much due due to turbulence; the NE flank holding good there; it will be a good place for crews got wind with them there getting to the tree line vegetation getting sparse up there; can work up that ENE corner of the fire; they'll need some helicopter support there to work their way up
11:18 AM
Tue 5/13
{air discussion} we see black smoke puffing out every now and then
11:16 AM
Tue 5/13
From: CHP CAD
11:10AM PER 203 FIRE HAS BURNED
APPROX 100 ACRES // NO
CONTAINMENT // 240 PERSONNEL
ON GROUND // 4 HELICOPTERS //
APPROXIMATING 2-3 DAYS DUE TO ROUGH TERRAIN
11:07AM 1039 S5 // COPIES LINE 15
11:04AM PER US FORESTRY SERVICE -
THEY ARE REQ CHP ASSISTANCE FOR
THE MT BALDY RD CLOSURE THRU
TOMORROW - PERHAPS LONGER -
CAN BE CONTACTED AT 661-########
11:12 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Weather
05/13 11:10:00
at 7800'
Temperature: 38 F
Wind: 35 from the East
Wet Bulb: 28 F
Wind Chill: 24 F
Humidity: 28%
Barometer: 30.00
11:05 AM
Tue 5/13
Eng186 is out of service at the staging area at Baldy School.
10:47 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF F-1
Fire is about 300 yards north of the nearest structure in the Bear Creek drainage.
10:47 AM
Tue 5/13
Notify CHP road closure in effect for Mt Baldy Road will be extended probably through tomorrow, possibly longer, but at least through tomorrow
10:46 AM
Tue 5/13
the sw edge of the fire is about 300 yards north from the creek drainage near those cabins in Bear Creek Drainage; starting to do the gel treatments on those walk in cabins; type 4 task force; anchoring southwest corner; will be calling for resource orders
10:26 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Bat 124
To :Comcntr
Task force 6232D in route to Mt. Baldy.
10:23 AM
Tue 5/13
Transcriber note - not much heard on scanners. This comment was also made by those running online scanner sources.
10:01 AM
Tue 5/13
From: WildlandFire.com
As of 9:45 a.m. - Per IC - 100 + acres burning actively on the west side. No imediate threat to Baldy village. Fixed wing loaded and waiting at WJF (William J. Fox field - Fox Tanker Base) but still grounded due to turbulence.
10:00 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Wildlandfire.com
Per Wildlandfire.com - As of 9:21 AM - Per AA- 40-50 acres with potential for several hundred this afternoon. All aircraft grounded due to winds. Fire in rugged inaccessible terrain.
09:59 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Webcam
09:35 AM
Tue 5/13
From: CHP CAD
Incident: 0316
6:20AM
Structure or Grass Fire
1000 MT BALDY RD
8:49AM PER 203 MT BALDY RD IS
COMPLETELY CLOSED // CLOSED TO
RESIDENTS AS WELL
8:33AM CLAREMONT PD LL - ASKING
IF MT BALDY RD IS CLOSED - PLS ADVS
6:29AM INLAND COPIES LN 7 VIA MIS
- ADVSD THEIR SGT WILL 1021 LACC
6:23AM THIS IS A FOREST FIRE
09:28 AM
Tue 5/13
Transcriber note - This is at the San Antonio dam where fire has water pickup point established.
09:26 AM
Tue 5/13
22robert21 on way to pick up the hikers.
09:25 AM
Tue 5/13
From: 40K
LA County Fire is dropping them off at the dam on the East side; coordinating a unit to come pick them up. The hikers are being dropped off at the water dropping point at the dam.
09:24 AM
Tue 5/13
From: 40K
2 hikers have been rescued by LA County
08:48 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Helicopter 305
To :To Dispatch 151.4450
lifting off Prado, ETA 10 minutes with 8 passengers {transporting fire crew to the fire}; No air attack over the fire due to winds. {Transcriber Note: Lead Bravo 5 set down at Hemet due to winds. -- BRAVO-5 AIR ATTACK PLATFORM Committed *ANF-1444: BIGHORN *}
08:35 AM
Tue 5/13
From: NWS
SAN BERNARDINO & RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE- SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS- 821 AM PDT TUE MAY 13 2008
.WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON.
THE NATL WEATHER SVC IN SAN DIEGO HAS ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY.WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 3 PM PDT THIS AFTERNOON.
GUSTY NO. TO NE WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO AROUND
45 MPH ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP.ESPECIALLY IN & BELOW THE CAJON PASS. THE WINDS SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE EARLY AFTERNOON HRS.THEN SUBSIDE.
A WIND ADVISORY MEANS THAT WIND GUSTS AT OR ABOVE 35 MPH ARE EXPECTED. WINDS THIS STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT.ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES. MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO USE EXTRA CAUTION.
08:28 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Comcntr
To :Bat 124
Just spoke to Air-Rescue-6, eta 15-20 minutes.
08:25 AM
Tue 5/13
From: WLF website
(Edited) It already looks like the North winds are starting to blow in the Cajon Pass, with gust to 24, and RH is already dropping quick, in the 20% in some areas.
08:17 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Comcntr
To :Bat 124
I am talking to them now, SO has not put in the request yet. [Bat124] I have sergeant here with me, we need to get this going.
08:16 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Bat 124
To :Comcntr
Can you let me know when air rescue 5 lifts off?
08:13 AM
Tue 5/13
From: CDF Tac-1
Make sure they make air to air contact with the fire tankers before they enter the area.
08:06 AM
Tue 5/13
Transcriber note - This had the feel to it that there may be some hikers up above the fire area they want taken out. Scratchy xmits so not sure.
08:02 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Comcntr
To :Bat 124
Deputies on scene up there and will face to face with you.
08:00 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Bat 124
To :ComCNTR
SO has them in sight, we need SB SO to airlift them out. [dispatch] Possibly 40king-10. I will followup with SO. [Bat124] Ok, we need SB SO to figure something out to fly them out, we have our tankers busy.
07:48 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF Air
We are getting ready for the first drop, eta (scratchy).
07:26 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ABC News
The blaze started around 4:30 a.m. Tuesday and has already charred 30 acres. It's being fueled by extremely dry conditions and fierce winds.
Hand crews and aircraft are working to put out the fire, which is burning is very rugged terrain.
At this point, authorities say there's no threat to Mount Baldy Village. However, voluntary evacuations are under way for about 100 to 150 residents as a precaution.
06:57 AM
Tue 5/13
Investigator about 15 minutes away, Sheriff bomb squad/Investigator on scene.
06:49 AM
Tue 5/13
From: CFFD
Can you let them know I am about 1/2 mile below the school staged on the shoulder. I am on Firemars-2
06:15 AM
Tue 5/13
No threat to the village or homes at the moment. No road accessibilty, the crews will need to hike in. The fire seems to be sheltered from the wind in Bear Creek canyon. Not putting up much smoke.
05:54 AM
Tue 5/13
I would like at least 2 fixed wing and 2 helo tankers if possible. Don't know yet if they can fly in these winds, but lets order them up.
05:53 AM
Tue 5/13
We need to get a couple of PIO's up here. This will probably generate a lot of media interest.
05:53 AM
Tue 5/13
As far as I can tell it is in LA County but in close proximity to SB County and the village.
05:49 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF F-1
I am going to take a vantage point at mm11.50, half mile above the village on Glendora Ridge Road. I can't see for sure but looks like it is running out of fuel in this drainge here. Perhaps we can get a crew in on Bear Creek Trail here.
05:46 AM
Tue 5/13
The ICP will be the Mt. Baldy vounteer fire department.
05:46 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF-1
CHP has closed Mt Baldy road, we need to have Glendora Ridge road closed. We are also closing Mt. Baldy schools today.
05:43 AM
Tue 5/13
From: SBCO CNTY-1
Fire is in Bear Canyon and is a border fire (LA County/San Bernardino County lines).
05:41 AM
Tue 5/13
The IC is Big Horn IC and Division 2 is on scene.
05:40 AM
Tue 5/13
From: 8-mtn-2
Affirmative, CHP is going to shut the road down.
05:38 AM
Tue 5/13
From: ANF-1
To :Big Horn IC
[Late Entry]We are requesting additional resources. Continue sending strike teams from LA County. We will stage them at the village for structure protection. Unknown how we will insert the other teams at this time, but continue sending them. We can't fly at this time due to marine influence below the village. This fire seems to be behaving like the Thunder fire did.
05:35 AM
Tue 5/13
From: Crest Forest Dispatch
[Late Entry] Assistance request for a fire in the Mt. Baldy area. 2 strike teams being sent to this incident. Tactics on White.
05:34 AM
Tue 5/13
From: SO-MTN-2
[Late entry]We need to close off the highway to only allow emergency vehicles up. This is not a mandatory evac, we just need to limit traffic to emergency vehicles. CHP has been requested for the road closure.
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